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taxes, spending, deficits, gun control, immigration. a lot to do and not a great environment to get it done. but with us now, two men who may not have to worry too much about that, but who may give us great insights if possible to get great things done. barney frank, the former democratic congressman from massachusetts and steve latourette, republican from ohio. first to you, congressman, as the democrat, what does the president have to do differently in the second term to have a more cooperative, working environment. to you, sir, what does the republican party need to do to try to get some things done? >> i have to differ with the preface, john. >> i thought you might. >> barack obama -- look, this notion that partisanship has taken over. it began when barack obama became president. i was chairman of the financial service committee of 2007 in the bush administration and i worked very closely with hank paulson, secretary of the treasury. we worked on putting fannie mae and freddie mac to stop the lawsuits. george bush went to harry reid
taxes, spending, deficits, gun control, immigration. a lot to do and not a great environment to get it done. but with us now, two men who may not have to worry too much about that, but who may give us great insights if possible to get great things done. barney frank, the former democratic congressman from massachusetts and steve latourette, republican from ohio. first to you, congressman, as the democrat, what does the president have to do differently in the second term to have a more...
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we need a plan to slowly on the but surely walk our nation out of debt, deficit, and decline. this debatealf, -- is often argued in numbers and figures, but it is really about families like yours that bear the burden of a slow economy. constant uncertainty and ever changing government rules that cesare jobs overseas. de to day jobs pay less. -- day to day jobs pay less. we need to address the most pressing economic challenges. you deserve better. with the swearing in of a new congress and the inauguration of president obama, this is an opportunity for a new start. republicans will not provide a blank check for more spending and the rational borrowing and constant tax increases. we need to have a washington budget and not a family budget. budget and not a family budget.
we need a plan to slowly on the but surely walk our nation out of debt, deficit, and decline. this debatealf, -- is often argued in numbers and figures, but it is really about families like yours that bear the burden of a slow economy. constant uncertainty and ever changing government rules that cesare jobs overseas. de to day jobs pay less. -- day to day jobs pay less. we need to address the most pressing economic challenges. you deserve better. with the swearing in of a new congress and the...
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it will be planned to slowly but surely, what our nation out of debt, deficit, and declined garrett on your behalf, we will insist the democrats who run the rest of washington to the same. this debate is often argued in numbers and figures but it is really about and families like yours that bear the burden of a slow economy. constant uncertainty and. ever-changing government rules chase our jobs and opportunities overseas. when day to day life costs more and jobs pay less, we do not solve the problem by delaying our cattle decision -- spending decisions, raising taxes, or refusing to answer the most pressing economic challenges. with the swearing in of a new congress and the inauguration of president obama, this is an opportunity for a fresh start. government debt affects all of us. republicans will not to to provide a blank check for uncontrolled spending and constant nickel and dime tax increases. we should gut washington's budget, your budget. these are the challenges of our times. we have the guidance of great leaders in the past who have faced tougher challenges than this with gra
it will be planned to slowly but surely, what our nation out of debt, deficit, and declined garrett on your behalf, we will insist the democrats who run the rest of washington to the same. this debate is often argued in numbers and figures but it is really about and families like yours that bear the burden of a slow economy. constant uncertainty and. ever-changing government rules chase our jobs and opportunities overseas. when day to day life costs more and jobs pay less, we do not solve the...
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he believes the deficit is a problem and deficit reduction is a priority. when you look at the approval rate of americans on handling of the economy, it's split half and half with support for the president and 49% versus 48% disapproving. there's a little room to do a big thing. this president is a deficit hawk. >> i'm afraid ezra is right in describing what we are going to be obsessed with. there are a lot of big things left. we had inequality rising in the country for three decades. poverty going up because of the recession. it's a big problem in the country. we had the flight of manufacturing jobs until recently. there's a bit of a turn around there. it seems to me president obama's biggest priority should not be the deficit. it should be restoring shared economic growth. yes, we need to do something about the long term deficit. i think the big argument is going to be between people who want to argue that the whole deal is deficit reduction. let's spend all our time putting on our green eye shades and talking these numbers. ezra will be excellent in desc
he believes the deficit is a problem and deficit reduction is a priority. when you look at the approval rate of americans on handling of the economy, it's split half and half with support for the president and 49% versus 48% disapproving. there's a little room to do a big thing. this president is a deficit hawk. >> i'm afraid ezra is right in describing what we are going to be obsessed with. there are a lot of big things left. we had inequality rising in the country for three decades....
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like a lot of issue we are dealing with, immigration, how we reduce our deficit have strong feelings. we think if you look at the public on some of these measures, i think knute newtown changed the debate. sadly, it took a tragedy like that seeing a lot of people. by the way you democrats and republicans think differently about this issue, post that tragedy. so i think it's going to take a lot of work, it's not going to be easy. but we think we can get to a point, as we said, i think there are 60 votes in the senate, 219 votes in the house, if the process can just play itself out and we can really get votes on some of these things we think. but it's going to be hard work. >> what's -- as far as you're concerned, the window in a second term for a president to get something done? we certainly hear 14, 16 months and then he's kind of in lame duck status. >> i don't believe that let's look at where we are now, not like casting about -- roaming the halls of the house looking for things to do. whether it is deficit reduction, energy, gun control, safety, immigration, these are all stacked u
like a lot of issue we are dealing with, immigration, how we reduce our deficit have strong feelings. we think if you look at the public on some of these measures, i think knute newtown changed the debate. sadly, it took a tragedy like that seeing a lot of people. by the way you democrats and republicans think differently about this issue, post that tragedy. so i think it's going to take a lot of work, it's not going to be easy. but we think we can get to a point, as we said, i think there are...
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sos that over $2 trillion in deficit reduction in two years. it doesn't get us all of the way there but largely, two thirds of the way there at least within a ten-year budget window. >> russ, what do you think? of course we are approaching this with caution. we know that there's going to be more back and forth. but in the middle of it all, we've got earnings season. and you know, already some people are saying that this anticipation of all of these cliffs, cliff after cliff, has already impacted the earnings period. what are you looking at, what are you seeing from the fourth quarter reporting season so far? it's been a big week obviously this week for financials. >> we're seeing decent performance. again, i think compliments to corporate america because they been able to grind out strong earnings growth with a relatively weak recovery. and margins remain much higher than people thought and this has helped. we are seeing recovery in the rest of the world, and that has helped. it's going to be a decent year. i don't think the problem is the traj
sos that over $2 trillion in deficit reduction in two years. it doesn't get us all of the way there but largely, two thirds of the way there at least within a ten-year budget window. >> russ, what do you think? of course we are approaching this with caution. we know that there's going to be more back and forth. but in the middle of it all, we've got earnings season. and you know, already some people are saying that this anticipation of all of these cliffs, cliff after cliff, has already...
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right now in front of congress and the country you have the need to reduce the deficit and continue to grow the economy, energy and climate change, immigration, gun safety. things are stacked up. and so i think that that is going to provide the sort of focus and energy you need and i think his intention is to run through the tape all the way through. >> gun safety has jumped to the top of the president's agenda since newtown and this week the president promised that the weight of his office behind these proposals, but we're already seeing a lot of resistance from democrats and i want to show some of the reaction this week. senator max baucus "before passing new laws we need a thoughtful debate that respects responsible law abiding gun owners in montana instead of one side fits all directives from washington. senator tim johnson, democrat of south dakota, "it makes common sense to not have one size fits all. senator mark begich, democrat of alaska, "i feel like it's going to be hard for they of these pieces of legislation to pass at this point." these are democrats. what is he going to
right now in front of congress and the country you have the need to reduce the deficit and continue to grow the economy, energy and climate change, immigration, gun safety. things are stacked up. and so i think that that is going to provide the sort of focus and energy you need and i think his intention is to run through the tape all the way through. >> gun safety has jumped to the top of the president's agenda since newtown and this week the president promised that the weight of his...
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the budget hasn't been balanced in multiyears and the deficit is over a trillion dollars . every man, woman and child. i had my fifth grandchild and that baby was born with $50,000 worth of debt if we were to pay it off today. every man and woman and child has that worth of debt. that is uncon69able and we have to stop kicking the can down the road and we have to solve the problem and do whatever it takes to get us back on the fiscal path again. >> i want to talk about it now you come back and see a different thing. what is the biggest difference you are seeing coming back the second time? >> we passed a lot more rules on ourselves. we reduced our budget and exact opposite is happening to our government. it is gone crazy with regulation and restriction, but the part that is most alarmming is the amount of money that we are print one day will explode. we can't continue to print money. we have fancy names for it. it is quantitative easing and it is really printing money. wrim bay way has a trillion dollar note and you buy a loaf of bread everybody is happily singing . we will
the budget hasn't been balanced in multiyears and the deficit is over a trillion dollars . every man, woman and child. i had my fifth grandchild and that baby was born with $50,000 worth of debt if we were to pay it off today. every man and woman and child has that worth of debt. that is uncon69able and we have to stop kicking the can down the road and we have to solve the problem and do whatever it takes to get us back on the fiscal path again. >> i want to talk about it now you come...
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you sll have an $800 billi deficit. it would likely shrink the ecomy so you're not would b be smaller. we're getting to the point -- we cannot tax ouray out. that is why we wilill be downgraded.. >> that is it for our roundtable. we will be back with some closing notes after the break. >> thank you for joining us. you have options on how to connect with "washington business report." twter, facebook, and youan find a streaeamingersi of the show on wjla.com. we hope to see you back again next sunday. thank you for joining us. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ multiple sounds making melodic tune ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, every innovation every solution comes together for a single purpose -- to make the world a safer place. that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. o0 c1 we're sitting on a bunch of shale gas. there's natural gas under my town. it's a game changer. ♪ ♪ it means cleaeaner, cheaper american-made e energy. but we've got to be careful how we get it. design the wells to be safe. thousands of
you sll have an $800 billi deficit. it would likely shrink the ecomy so you're not would b be smaller. we're getting to the point -- we cannot tax ouray out. that is why we wilill be downgraded.. >> that is it for our roundtable. we will be back with some closing notes after the break. >> thank you for joining us. you have options on how to connect with "washington business report." twter, facebook, and youan find a streaeamingersi of the show on wjla.com. we hope to see...
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there's vast support out there for balanced deficit reduction investments in education and manufacturing, immigration reform, gun safety. so on the issues the president intends to really push and focus on, there's massive support in the country even among republicans. let's not lose sight of that, and that's why we're going to do a better job in the second term-- while we're going to do all we can to work with congress and negotiate, to also make sure the american people are connected to what's going on here. i think to really get the kind of change here in washington the american people are going to demand it. but there is really, i think consensus around eye lot of the issues around the country >> what about the idea the republicans have said they will go along with the three-month extension on the debt ceiling increase? are you going to be-- does that help? >> well, it's helpful that they have now dropped their demand, that the only way they're going to pay the country's billes, they themselves racked up, would be to extract some concessions. we've got to never again have this threat
there's vast support out there for balanced deficit reduction investments in education and manufacturing, immigration reform, gun safety. so on the issues the president intends to really push and focus on, there's massive support in the country even among republicans. let's not lose sight of that, and that's why we're going to do a better job in the second term-- while we're going to do all we can to work with congress and negotiate, to also make sure the american people are connected to what's...
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you're going to need more revenues as well as more cuts to get the deficit down. and i've talked to leader reid. i've talked to budget chair murray. we're going to do a budget this year. and it's going to have revenues in it. and our republican colleagues better get used to that fact. >> senator cruz? >> david, i'll mention there was an area of substantial agreement with what chuck just said. he said we should never, ever compromise the full faith and credit of the united states. i agree. and in fact, there is a bill that i am co-sponsoring, the full faith and credit act, which provides that, regardless of what happens to the debt ceiling, the united states will always, always, always meet its debt. we will never default on its debt. that was introduced in 2010. it didn't pass because harry reid and president obama didn't want it to pass. they wanted to raise the specter of a default to use. so, chuck, you and i could make news right now on national television, would you agree to support the full faith and credit act and take the possibility of a default off the t
you're going to need more revenues as well as more cuts to get the deficit down. and i've talked to leader reid. i've talked to budget chair murray. we're going to do a budget this year. and it's going to have revenues in it. and our republican colleagues better get used to that fact. >> senator cruz? >> david, i'll mention there was an area of substantial agreement with what chuck just said. he said we should never, ever compromise the full faith and credit of the united states. i...
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combines tough spending cuts with the balanced way to row deuce the deficit -- to reduce the deficit that, of course, includes revenue. includes asking the wealthiest americans in particular to pay their fair share. >> we have been on that issue and the republicans say that issue is behind us when it comes to taxs. >> take a look at what is in the package in terms of spending. additional savings from medicare and medicaid in it. savings from agricultural sub is sidis. the president already signed a trillion dollars of deficit reduction into law and committed to more spending cuts but we can't just cut our way to prosperity. we have toasting to invest in things like -- we have to continue to invest in things like education and energy. he put reducing the deficit in a balanced way to promote jobs for middle class families and that is going to be his guiding principle through the negotiations. >> i want to ask you quickly about the republican idea. would you support it but with the caveat they are telling the senate you haven't passed a budget in more than three years and you need to do
combines tough spending cuts with the balanced way to row deuce the deficit -- to reduce the deficit that, of course, includes revenue. includes asking the wealthiest americans in particular to pay their fair share. >> we have been on that issue and the republicans say that issue is behind us when it comes to taxs. >> take a look at what is in the package in terms of spending. additional savings from medicare and medicaid in it. savings from agricultural sub is sidis. the president...
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if you are truly a deficit buster, you actually should be for it. it is not going to happen. >> i will argue with the mathematics in a minute. morgan, the fact is that we knew we weren't going to get a full blown government-run health care system. we are going to inch our way into it. isn't that what is happening? obamacare what we saw passed a couple years ago was just the beginning of full blown government takeover health care. >> well, i do think rick makes a good point by saying it is unlikely this public option is going to happen. but i'm gonna jump on this idea of funky mathematics. this hundred billion dollar plus number that is getting thrown around is from a 2009 congressional office report. and then in 2010 the number was more like $68 billion. two different programs. and i think that is the big issue with the public option. there are so many if's and questions about whether this would make money or lose money. one of the biggest things being whether subsidees will be involved. >> mike, let's just pull back for a second. when government ta
if you are truly a deficit buster, you actually should be for it. it is not going to happen. >> i will argue with the mathematics in a minute. morgan, the fact is that we knew we weren't going to get a full blown government-run health care system. we are going to inch our way into it. isn't that what is happening? obamacare what we saw passed a couple years ago was just the beginning of full blown government takeover health care. >> well, i do think rick makes a good point by saying...
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. >> the debt ceiling was raised in august the political fight in the spot lighted on the deficit and debt problems less s&p to downgrade the u.s. credit rating for the first time in history. >> geithner steered the major economic moves in the first term and now he is stepping down. president obama's pick to replace him is jack lew, who has established a close relationship with the president. lew is not is chummy with republicans on the hill after the debt ceiling negotiation back in 2011. for that reason and others, his confirmation hearing could be bumpy. if confirmed, he will be dealing with the top issue in this second term, how to get the economy moving and addressing the country's long term fiscal problems. >> this is a president that is forced to grapple with the budget woes, with the economy that cannot get over the hump. it will consume most of his time, i believe, in the second term. >> what he cannot do going into the term is go from economic crisis to economic crisis. that is not leadership. he has to figure out how to address this in a broader policy way. our health care
. >> the debt ceiling was raised in august the political fight in the spot lighted on the deficit and debt problems less s&p to downgrade the u.s. credit rating for the first time in history. >> geithner steered the major economic moves in the first term and now he is stepping down. president obama's pick to replace him is jack lew, who has established a close relationship with the president. lew is not is chummy with republicans on the hill after the debt ceiling negotiation...
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look, anything that keeps the focus on reducing debt and deficit in my mind is a good thing. getting rid of the debt limit is papering over the real uncertainty, which is american consumers, american investors don't know if and when washington will ever adopt a sensible fiscal policy. i wish we had it come up every month. >> gary b. basically steve is saying this eliminates some uncertainty and that would help. we see consumer confidence at lows again. >> absolutely, brenda. look, this is how every family operates. they don't go out and make plans we're going to build a new addition to the house and do this and that and we don't have any money to pay for it. let's borrow more. i think steve is right. this should be a regular conversation because as he points out. we've not had a budget passed by the senate in the last four or five years, for crying out loud. >> there has to be check and balance. jonas says let's get rid of it. my gosh let's get rid of everything and spend whatever we have out there. so like todd said we could stimulate the economy and all of that spending has
look, anything that keeps the focus on reducing debt and deficit in my mind is a good thing. getting rid of the debt limit is papering over the real uncertainty, which is american consumers, american investors don't know if and when washington will ever adopt a sensible fiscal policy. i wish we had it come up every month. >> gary b. basically steve is saying this eliminates some uncertainty and that would help. we see consumer confidence at lows again. >> absolutely, brenda. look,...
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pretty controversial issues -- immigration, gun control, spending, dealing with the national debt and deficit. these are things he sees absolutely no common ground with republicans on. he has to get them to agree, so how is he going to do it? he's defined by his ability to campaign. he's putting that the organization into eight groups that will lobby on his behalf. his inauguration was about changing the town in washington. even people in the white house said that the president has failed to change the town. if anything, it's uglier, angrier, and even more bitter. he was to try to get just enough of the republican party on board with him to pass some of the agenda items and we believe he's going to take them all on at once. >> talk us through what we can expect on monday. >> a bit of a prayer service, but of a poetry reading, and a bit of a political pep rally all rolled into one. the president will give his speech, probably 20 minutes and take the oath of office again -- the fourth time if you think about it because the chief justice made that mistake four years ago. then there is going to b
pretty controversial issues -- immigration, gun control, spending, dealing with the national debt and deficit. these are things he sees absolutely no common ground with republicans on. he has to get them to agree, so how is he going to do it? he's defined by his ability to campaign. he's putting that the organization into eight groups that will lobby on his behalf. his inauguration was about changing the town in washington. even people in the white house said that the president has failed to...
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the biggest problem in washington is there is a trust deficit. republicans blame the president, the president and the democrats blame republicans for that. he's the singular leader of the country. we can all debate that. he needs to find a way to break it and start a second term. >> he joked because his drawers teenagers and want to spend less time with him and he may have more time to hang out with members of congress and back slap. has that been an issue? >> i don't see him spending a lot more time with members of congress. i think he brushed that aside when asked about it in a recent press conference. i think and you just had time with him, with the historians, but what i see in him is a man more confident, he's tougher, i think he's smarter politically, i think he's bolder. i'm not sure he's wiser in terms of how do you get things done in this city. that's where we'll have to let that play out. i think he may have a -- portrait of him in "the new york times" saying he's not only scarred but he has a smaller sense of what can be accomplished.
the biggest problem in washington is there is a trust deficit. republicans blame the president, the president and the democrats blame republicans for that. he's the singular leader of the country. we can all debate that. he needs to find a way to break it and start a second term. >> he joked because his drawers teenagers and want to spend less time with him and he may have more time to hang out with members of congress and back slap. has that been an issue? >> i don't see him...
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or the deficit. but, if we can save one life through action, we can do it. we think we can get the votes in the senate -- >> assault weapons? >> the president put forward a variety of things, assault weapons and high capacity magazines an universal background checks and mental health. school safety. so, we think there is support for a lot of these things and we'll push as hard as we can. >> chris: finally, less and a minute left, most of obamacare goes into effect at the end of this year, beginning of next year. states are having problems, already, putting the exchanges into effect and insurance companies an employers are having problems. is there any chance the president will say, let's slow down and delay the january 1st, 2014 kick-in of a lot of the stuff and allow people more time to implement it? >> no. no, i think -- no. but hhsr, health department is working with employers and states to be flexible and making sure we work with them very closely. >> chris: january 1st, 2014? >> no, i think that -- the implementation of health care, even though it is a
or the deficit. but, if we can save one life through action, we can do it. we think we can get the votes in the senate -- >> assault weapons? >> the president put forward a variety of things, assault weapons and high capacity magazines an universal background checks and mental health. school safety. so, we think there is support for a lot of these things and we'll push as hard as we can. >> chris: finally, less and a minute left, most of obamacare goes into effect at the end...
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talking about his legacy, most important thing he could do is tax reform and deficit control. if he could put those two things together, that'd be bigger than health care. >> steve: you know what? if he were to work with the republicans talking reform-- >> i think that's a lock for next year. >> steve: well, he wants to do something about it. some republicans want to do something about it, remember last time with health care, the republicans had a bunch of ideas and the democrats shut them out completely. maybe this time bipartisan. >> brian: that's not the harry reid i know. >> alisyn: let's get to other stories in the headlines, late last noos night, two drones strikes, at least three of the bodies were burned beyond recognition. the death toll could rise in the hostage crisis at a gas plant in algeria. many were killed including one american. two americans are still missing and the crisis ended yesterday when the aerian army attacked the plant killing two militants. president obama said this is attack is another reminder of the threat posed by al-qaeda and other violent ext
talking about his legacy, most important thing he could do is tax reform and deficit control. if he could put those two things together, that'd be bigger than health care. >> steve: you know what? if he were to work with the republicans talking reform-- >> i think that's a lock for next year. >> steve: well, he wants to do something about it. some republicans want to do something about it, remember last time with health care, the republicans had a bunch of ideas and the...
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which only will reyour trillion dollar deficit spending each year 5%, folks. so they gave them that. what does he come back with? we want more. i want more tax hikes which aren't going to do anything to calm the debt and the spending. he is not willing, and so i think back to what joe said. i think marco said this too. small business owners and large corporations can't trust the president. that's why they're sitting on top of all this cash and not hiring. that doesn't bode well. neil: marco, quickly you see nothing to dissuade you or some of your colleagues from getting off that? >> businesses are still growing, neil but they're not growing as much as they otherwise would. and that uncertainty has a very real trickle down effect. i'll use us as an example. we're building a new gio pronto restaurant right now. i would have loved to borrow the total investment from people like joe and gold coast banking. no way i'm going to do that based on uncertainty. i go borrow less than i would otherwise need. i do things like buy refurbished equipment than new. that doesn'
which only will reyour trillion dollar deficit spending each year 5%, folks. so they gave them that. what does he come back with? we want more. i want more tax hikes which aren't going to do anything to calm the debt and the spending. he is not willing, and so i think back to what joe said. i think marco said this too. small business owners and large corporations can't trust the president. that's why they're sitting on top of all this cash and not hiring. that doesn't bode well. neil: marco,...
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it's people in their 50's and 60's, people who say i'm really worried about the deficit. don't touch my medicare or social security. chris: that it? indicated stuff. >> the entitlement stuff is a really big problem. there are a lot of liberals who go too far in denying it's a problem, but it's not an immediate problem. interest rates remain low. we have a little bit of time. chris: now for some fun. we're all looking forward to witnessing the president's inauguration on monday, we thought we'd look back through history at some inauguration firsts. this inauguration will mark the 57th time a president has been sworn into office and like any national tradition, the ceremony has evolved. george washington's inauguration was not only a first for our country, but also the fst and only to be rescheduled because congress delayed the election. andrew jackson was first sworn in on the east side of the capitol building and ronald reagan the first on the west. the shortest inauguration dress was george washington's second. six presidents have taken the oath outside washington. georg
it's people in their 50's and 60's, people who say i'm really worried about the deficit. don't touch my medicare or social security. chris: that it? indicated stuff. >> the entitlement stuff is a really big problem. there are a lot of liberals who go too far in denying it's a problem, but it's not an immediate problem. interest rates remain low. we have a little bit of time. chris: now for some fun. we're all looking forward to witnessing the president's inauguration on monday, we thought...
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another thing going on is deficit politics. i'm not saying just the deficit itself, which with a balanced approach we can take care of like we did in the '90s after bush one. i think deficit politics, there's a fear of it, it's ginned up, becomes a big obstacle to doing things he wants to do and that the country needs like investing in our economic infrastructure, improving public education, jump-starting new industries to keep us competitive, that sort of thing. i think that's going to be a big obstacle to a lot of things in the second term. >> he touched on the deep division that marked certainly the second part of his first term, robert. gridlock in congress. what is the gop's strategy for working with this president in the second term? because surely they don't want to be labeled as obstructionist for the next four years. >> the posture of the gop for the first term is to deny this president the second term. now that he is in his second term, i think what the republicans will do most likely is let's see where we can find co
another thing going on is deficit politics. i'm not saying just the deficit itself, which with a balanced approach we can take care of like we did in the '90s after bush one. i think deficit politics, there's a fear of it, it's ginned up, becomes a big obstacle to doing things he wants to do and that the country needs like investing in our economic infrastructure, improving public education, jump-starting new industries to keep us competitive, that sort of thing. i think that's going to be a...
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the deficit. unemployment. economic growth. we are not having an intelligent debate about solving those. we will not hear the president talk intelligently about them. i hope i am wrong. >> do you think politicians think americans are too stupid to know what going on? >> yes. ross ten -- rostenskowsky went to prison, and so does duke cunningham. >> i disagree respectfully with john and i would say the american people are disappointed because they expect more and they know they can get more. there you are been senators who have risen above and we are not seeing people who put the people's business ahead of their political interests. partisanship is standing in the way of solving problems which is why we have talked. >> a perfect example is the simpson-bowles debt reduction decision, both had a good plan, ignored bit establishment by both parties, the president appointed them and he will not talk about it and the republicans who sponsored it do not want to talk about it but it is the one route to solving some of the main problems.
the deficit. unemployment. economic growth. we are not having an intelligent debate about solving those. we will not hear the president talk intelligently about them. i hope i am wrong. >> do you think politicians think americans are too stupid to know what going on? >> yes. ross ten -- rostenskowsky went to prison, and so does duke cunningham. >> i disagree respectfully with john and i would say the american people are disappointed because they expect more and they know they...
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over the next 75 years, 70% of deficit spending is going to come from medicare programs alone, social security and medicare are the biggest part of the debt. the reason they are known as third rail of politics because if you touch them you are committing political suicide. george bush tried it and he was shut down. no lawmakers want to cut into medicare and social security because they would basically get voted out of office. that is what is interesting about this poll basically. you have all these americans and government spending is you on will krof, what we need to do is deal with entitlements, deal with social security and medicare that are going otherwise we're going broke. they say don't cut my social security. don't cut my medicare. that is the issue here. >> arthel: brenda, as a business expert, would you if you were going into books and looking at those systems, would you go in there and look at some of the unnecessary expenses, perhaps the administrative costs or make adjustments to make it fit where the public doesn't sort of freak out thinking their benefits will be cut? >
over the next 75 years, 70% of deficit spending is going to come from medicare programs alone, social security and medicare are the biggest part of the debt. the reason they are known as third rail of politics because if you touch them you are committing political suicide. george bush tried it and he was shut down. no lawmakers want to cut into medicare and social security because they would basically get voted out of office. that is what is interesting about this poll basically. you have all...
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, or cut the deficit, at least. the president doesn't seem to be on that same page. >> yeah. look. republicans in the house and in the senate, for that matter, and the president i think so fundamentally disagree on the major issues of the day. i mean, so much so that i think common ground is very hard for them to find and will continue to be hard for them to find. the key thing to look for, john, and what people want to try to figure out, are things going to be different over the next two or four years, or do they at least start to show signs of wanting to negotiate deals where both sides are allowed to win? we have not seen that, whether you want to blame the president, whether you want to blame republicans. you just haven't seen that. they don't like each other. they don't get along well. there are no relationships there whatsoever, and that's why i'm skeptical that things will be different. and again, it kind of goes to the core of what they believe. they just don't agree on anything. i'd be shocked if they agree
, or cut the deficit, at least. the president doesn't seem to be on that same page. >> yeah. look. republicans in the house and in the senate, for that matter, and the president i think so fundamentally disagree on the major issues of the day. i mean, so much so that i think common ground is very hard for them to find and will continue to be hard for them to find. the key thing to look for, john, and what people want to try to figure out, are things going to be different over the next two...
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republicans worked with democrats to fix social security, bill clinton could look back and talk about the deficit reduction plan. other things they had done a little bit together. it's harder for president obama to do that because there's been so much polarization. >> polarization has been on both sides. it would be a good step for the president, i actually don't expect him to take it. to try to put that behind, to have at least a rhetorical frame for being more enveloping. obviously in the last few days, last week or so, he hasn't taken that tact. he's, he had his press conference about a week ago. he's had some, they've floated some stories about how they're going to have a more confrontational stand. and that seems to be the direction they're planning to take. nevertheless, at least if i were in their position, i would be saying, you need to rhetorically try to put that behind the country. if the opposition then doesn't take, reach out and pick up the mantle that you've offered to them, that's their problem. >> does the president have to refer to the bitterly divided country and congress? i me
republicans worked with democrats to fix social security, bill clinton could look back and talk about the deficit reduction plan. other things they had done a little bit together. it's harder for president obama to do that because there's been so much polarization. >> polarization has been on both sides. it would be a good step for the president, i actually don't expect him to take it. to try to put that behind, to have at least a rhetorical frame for being more enveloping. obviously in...
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if you want a balanced approach to reducing the deficit, let your member of congress know. if you believe we can solve this problem through compromise, send that message. america, after all, has always been a grand experiment in compromise. >> one thing i will not compromise over is whether or not congress should pay the tab for a bill they already racked up. if congress refuses to give the united states the ability to pay its bills on time, the consequences for the entire global economy could be catastrophic. the last time they threatened this course of action our entire economy suffered for it. >> all right. the trajectory of the perspective of compromise. >> that's entertaining but i think a i have a little bit of minority opinion. some of it is a bit overstated. in you're preamble setting this up. to assume that when the president was delivering that speech in 2009, that he did not understand just how difficult the road ahead would be and just how much recess substance he would get from the other party. i think, understates the sophistication that this man has about pol
if you want a balanced approach to reducing the deficit, let your member of congress know. if you believe we can solve this problem through compromise, send that message. america, after all, has always been a grand experiment in compromise. >> one thing i will not compromise over is whether or not congress should pay the tab for a bill they already racked up. if congress refuses to give the united states the ability to pay its bills on time, the consequences for the entire global economy...